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Nate is a top general in the war on counterfeits. He provides a valuable service to the precious metals community. Everyone here who trades has probably already benefited from his hard work. Please consider a membership or donation to fakebullion.com.


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Persons of Interest in Counterfeit/Kidnapping/Homicide Cases
Lincoln, NE - The Lincoln Nebraska Police Department requested assistance on a counterfeit coin case in June of this year. Detectives are now investigating a kidnapping/homicide of a female with subjects pictured above as persons of interest. The investigation has revealed that these two subjects have traveled the the Central Plains and possible Southeast, defrauding individuals with counterfeit coins.
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End of the year bump!
If anybody is feeling generous (or maybe slightly inebriated) heading into New Year's Eve, FakeBullion.com is currently sitting on a loss of $800 for 2017, and $3000 over the life of the company. My wages are $0.00/hour times a lot of hours. This is a terrible business plan.
Where are our new Bitcoin billionaires?
Crypto welcome.
Also this update:
If anybody is feeling generous (or maybe slightly inebriated) heading into New Year's Eve, FakeBullion.com is currently sitting on a loss of $800 for 2017, and $3000 over the life of the company. My wages are $0.00/hour times a lot of hours. This is a terrible business plan.
Where are our new Bitcoin billionaires?

Also this update:
I recently spent 40+ hours organizing a mess of fakes and updating my spreadsheet. I moved the "Wanted to Borrow" list to the FakeBullion.com site so I can point multiple audiences there and edit and update one central list. There are currently over 300 items on the list, there are a few dozen I still need to add, and I haven't even started to go through the pile of counterfeit 90% silver and pre-33 gold.
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https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/140-wanted-list
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Received a Wade Ventures Mundinero in a batch of rounds that fails PMV. It's also a little heavier (31.58 vs 31.18) and seems a little thicker. Only under intense magnification can I tell any differences in the stamping. I would never have considered these being faked...
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Look at the difference in edge thickness, and the density of the foliage.
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Iwant2beu wrote:Received a Wade Ventures Mundinero in a batch of rounds that fails PMV. It's also a little heavier (31.58 vs 31.18) and seems a little thicker. Only under intense magnification can I tell any differences in the stamping. I would never have considered these being faked...
That's a new one to me! They will fake anything. I have some even more generic fakes than that

I'd love to borrow those to add it to the site. Or, if you have to return it, I could use those photos to add it to the database and credit you for it? Thanks for sharing!
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I now have a contact with some inroads to eBay. If you see fakes on eBay, send me a link, and there's a good chance we can get them taken down.
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Just added 80 new items to the "Wanted to Borrow" list, growing it to more than 400.
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/140-wanted-list
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/140-wanted-list
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natsb88 wrote:Just added 80 new items to the "Wanted to Borrow" list, growing it to more than 400.
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/140-wanted-list



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natsb88 wrote:Just added 80 new items to the "Wanted to Borrow" list, growing it to more than 400.
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/140-wanted-list
I see that your list has a 1933 double eagle on it....... that's going to be a tough one to borrow.

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Rodebaugh wrote:natsb88 wrote:Just added 80 new items to the "Wanted to Borrow" list, growing it to more than 400.
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/140-wanted-list
I see that your list has a 1933 double eagle on it....... that's going to be a tough one to borrow.
What your saying is, you might charge him to see it.

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Three new items added to the Fake Bullion Database in the past seven days. Hope to get a couple more up this weekend. Thanks to MaxGravy for letting me borrow a bunch of genuine items to scan and document 

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thank you nate for your hard work
this thread always scares me

this thread always scares me

"SAUSAGE FLAVORED MEAT PELLETS, GRADE D BUT EDIBLE"
"Better 1 or 2 years early than 1 day late"
"Better 1 or 2 years early than 1 day late"
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Purple and Gold wrote:The look of that seller is another
"SAUSAGE FLAVORED MEAT PELLETS, GRADE D BUT EDIBLE"
"Better 1 or 2 years early than 1 day late"
"Better 1 or 2 years early than 1 day late"
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grantwoodisgold wrote:Purple and Gold wrote:The look of that seller is another
... " so much testosterone they turn into the Incredible Hulk or Michelle Obama"




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Paul Joseph Watson cracks me up. I'm going to miss his limey, jump-cutting, non-soy mug when YouTube finally purges him from the platform.
So much wrong-think...
So much wrong-think...
***Looking for YPS prototypes/test run/commission pieces***
Also any pieces with serial #17 & 18s. Please contact me if you have any of these for sale.
Also any pieces with serial #17 & 18s. Please contact me if you have any of these for sale.


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Two more items added to the database this evening while watching my March Madness bracket fall apart...
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"SAUSAGE FLAVORED MEAT PELLETS, GRADE D BUT EDIBLE"
"Better 1 or 2 years early than 1 day late"
"Better 1 or 2 years early than 1 day late"
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FAKE ENGELHARD INGOTS HIT MARKET
From AllEngelhard.com and AGWire™ - "Over the past two weeks, there has been an unrelenting buzz within our community regarding a portfolio of unfamiliar ‘Engelhard’ ingots coming to market from Kyle Anastasiou, in Ontario, Canada."
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From AllEngelhard.com and AGWire™ - "Over the past two weeks, there has been an unrelenting buzz within our community regarding a portfolio of unfamiliar ‘Engelhard’ ingots coming to market from Kyle Anastasiou, in Ontario, Canada."
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Moorestown Man Impersonated ATF Agent, Sold Counterfeit Gold
MOORESTOWN, NJ — A Moorestown man has admitted that he impersonated a federal agent while selling counterfeit coins and unlawfully importing counterfeit gold coins and bars into the United States, U.S. Attorney Craig Carpenito announced on Monday.
Jonathan A. Kirschner, a/k/a "Jonathan Kratcher," 34, pleaded guilty to an information charging him with one count of falsely impersonating an agent of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) and one count of unlawfully bringing counterfeit coins and bars into the United States.
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MOORESTOWN, NJ — A Moorestown man has admitted that he impersonated a federal agent while selling counterfeit coins and unlawfully importing counterfeit gold coins and bars into the United States, U.S. Attorney Craig Carpenito announced on Monday.
Jonathan A. Kirschner, a/k/a "Jonathan Kratcher," 34, pleaded guilty to an information charging him with one count of falsely impersonating an agent of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) and one count of unlawfully bringing counterfeit coins and bars into the United States.
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